06:27 mareko: robclark: why doesn't -Wno-inconsistent-missing-override make this error go away? https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/jobs/62104781
06:27 mareko: only android seems to ignore the option
15:21 robclark: mareko: hmm, I'm not seeing where HwlComputeStereoInfo is even overridden in that MR
15:56 DavidHeidelberg:thinking loud.. zluda is Rust based, what a beautiful fit for Mesa3D project since we getting all the rusty things... and don't tell me how we much we're f*ed with compute
16:18 karolherbst: DavidHeidelberg: not sure if it's a good fit for mesa specifically, because how it's targeting nothing we care about
16:24 karolherbst: though maybe one could figure out how to integrate it all
19:41 Lynne: is there any hardware out there which has slower accesses to CONCURRENT resources?
21:28 apteryx: hello! which gpus have the best drivers in 2024; is it those from amd?
21:29 apteryx: (free software drivers)
21:33 Company: they're all good - they share a lot of code after all
21:49 apteryx: oh! so say, an nvidia RTX 4070 would work fine? (these seems powerful and relatively low power/efficient)
21:53 karolherbst: I think for now it's better to buy AMD instead of nvidia due to better vendor support for the foss drivers
21:55 apteryx: OK, thanks.
21:55 karenw: Anything AMD and newer than ~10 years old
21:55 apteryx: And is it true that all graphic cards, even integrated ones from intel, now requires loading firmware blobs to function to their full extent (e.g., 3d acceleration)
21:56 apteryx: my really old gpu (8800 gts) could run on nouveau with 3d without proprietary firmware, which was cool
22:00 karenw: Interesting, why do I have a libvulkan_dzn.so on my machine. It's not listed as being provided by any packages in apt. And obviously fails to load as I'm running on bare metal. How did it get there?
22:20 Company: karenw: checked the timestamp?
22:20 Company:has totally never done an accidental ninja install ever at all
22:22 karenw: I think I solved it. dpkg -S says it's from mesa-vulkan-drivers, while apt-file does not. I'm guessing apt-file can't 'see' the packages in kisak-mesa-fresh for some reason and is only reporting the stock ubuntu packages
22:22 karenw: Same timestamp as all the other libvulkan_* packages. (And different from libvulkan.so itself)
22:37 kisak: where does apt-file source its package manifests? The kisak-mesa PPA build does add in dozen while the upstream package doesn't have it yet.
22:40 karenw: From apt itself. It even reports "Hit:2 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/kisak/kisak-mesa/ubuntu noble InRelease"
22:41 karenw: Also, as you're here kisak, is there anyway to get the debug symbols you build other than manually downloading them off launchpad?
22:47 kisak: I'd need to look at the test box tomorrow but I'd expect you'd adjust the kisak-mesa file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d to enable it.
22:47 kisak: I need to run, but something like https://forum.freecad.org/viewtopic.php?t=20347
22:55 karenw: Adding main/debug to the components field in the sources.list is what I needed, thanks.
22:56 karenw: Couldn't find that anywhere when I googled.