03:51 wlb: weston Merge request !1531 opened by Chien Phung (chienpv) backend-drm: Take screenshot with DMA buffer using writeback connector https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/merge_requests/1531
05:19 wlb: wayland-protocols/main: Matthias Klumpp * staging: Add xdg-toplevel-icon protocol for dedicated toplevel icons https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/commit/e3c6a17a6f99 staging/xdg-toplevel-icon/README staging/xdg-toplevel-icon/xdg-toplevel-icon-v1.xml meson.build
05:21 vyivel: hm?
05:21 wlb: wayland-protocols Issue #52 closed \o/ (Window and application icons https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/issues/52)
05:21 wlb: wayland-protocols Merge request !269 merged \o/ (staging: Add xdg-toplevel-icon to allow windows to set dedicated icons https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/269)
05:21 vyivel: nvm gitlab is a bit too slow
07:28 bookworm: \o/
07:55 pq: whot, could you verify your user ID at keys.openpgp.org? Otherwise they don't distribute your user ID, which means gpg will not import the key.
12:49 wlb: weston Merge request !1532 opened by Loïc Molinari (molinari) gl-renderer: Improve wireframe rendering https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/merge_requests/1532
18:44 wlb: weston Merge request !1533 opened by Derek Foreman (derekf) Rework placeholder rendering for weston-direct and content censoring https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/merge_requests/1533 [Core compositor], [GL renderer]
21:23 mclasen: I was pointed at a two week old discussion in this channel, and I must say, I am unhappy with the way things are handled here
21:29 mclasen: and merging the toplevel icons protocol in its current state and without sufficient agreement sets a bad precedent
22:09 dwfreed: mclasen: do you have anything helpful to add?
22:11 mclasen: no
22:45 JoshuaAshton: mclasen: If you are speaking for Gnome, then you had multiple weeks to NACK if you did not wish it to be included.
22:45 mclasen: I always speak for myself
22:48 mclasen: it is a bad, but mostly harmless protocol. the damage is all on the community side
22:49 JoshuaAshton: What is bad about it?
22:49 mclasen: if anything short of a nack is ignored, there isn't much community left
22:50 mclasen: it uses buffers without surfaces, it drags icon names into wayland, etc etc
22:50 mclasen: I'm not going to go through the whole list
22:50 mclasen: since I would only be told that that has all been covered in those 500 comments
22:58 JoshuaAshton: I mean yeah, that was discussed in the 500 comments and you didn't take part, the tl;dr is that surfaces have a lot of of other baggage, subsurfaces, metadata, other protocols used with them that wouldn't make sense for something that's really just pixeldata passed to another shell rendering process.
22:58 JoshuaAshton: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/269#note_2233548
23:04 mclasen: you are wrong. I did participate at some point and I was told that my feedback was "last minute drive-by comments"
23:06 JoshuaAshton: I was specifically referring to the "using buffers without surfaces" part
23:11 mclasen: if there was a surface, you could use a viewporter. Instead, there's yet another integer scale manually associated with a buffer
23:32 colinmarc: on that topic, why are cursors surfaces but not icons? Is it just different historical decisions?
23:32 colinmarc: I have no opinion on this, just curious about the difference
23:48 bl4ckb0ne: whats wrong with wl_buffers